DESI THREAD!

[PunjabiAssassin]

You know you want it! So say it here so Sonia will make one for us!

[Prashant]

You know you want it! So say it here so Sonia will make one for us!
I think you mean a forum, not a thread - and why do you need a separate forum for Indians? Aren't we part of the general Newport Community?

And weren't you arguing for posts after posts a few days back emphasizing the feeling of how important it is to be a part of a Community?

[Stan]

I think what Punjabi needs is his own forum! :D

[PunjabiAssassin]

No? I wasn't? I was arguing for a Language forum?

Being a part of a community doesn't mean we can't have diversity. Everyone identifies with many different groups, sometimes you want to hang with the general public, sometimes with the Reds, sometimes with the Elephants, Donkeys, Greenies... sometimes with the guys, sometimes with the Indians, the Mexicans, the French! The point being, we identify with this newport community at large, and smaller groups within it, whether that be political, ethnic, social, Nic, or whatever. We should give people the opportunity to meet others who fit into a similar group. Desi is one such group, Singles are another. The concept is the same, but when I say it Admin get's anti.

[@@di]

I am completely against a "DESI" forum. Its bad enough that desis only hang out with other desis, but why do we need to perpetuate it online. If they like to with their own kind so much, why not move back to India or Edison!!

The whole point of these forums is to bring people together and not separate them into their own enclaves.

[PunjabiAssassin]

You're getting mad at Desis because they like to hang out with Desis? People feel comforable at different levels, some within their ethnic group, some at a larger level. I hope you also posted in the singles forum.

'I am completely against a "SINGLES" forum. Its bad enough that single people only hang out with other single people, but why do we need to perpetuate it online. If they like to with their own kind so much, why not go back to the pub/club/bar whereever you singles meet :)

The whole point of these forums is to bring people together and not separate them into their own enclaves.'

The situation is the same.

[LostinLaMancha]

I think you mean a forum, not a thread - and why do you need a separate forum for Indians? Aren't we part of the general Newport Community?



Hey Prashant, what is the difference between a health Club forum and Desi Forum. The thing is, why couldn't those health related issues be posted in the same forum. We have seen on the older board, that there are really not that many health related talks. So, you guys have set a bad precedent by creating that forum. Why couldn't those people just post issues on the general Newport Forums?

If it were a heating issues forum, it would have been a totally different thing though :D

[@@di]

You're getting mad at Desis because they like to hang out with Desis? People feel comforable at different levels, some within their ethnic group, some at a larger level. I hope you also posted in the singles forum.

'I am completely against a "SINGLES" forum. Its bad enough that single people only hang out with other single people, but why do we need to perpetuate it online. If they like to with their own kind so much, why not go back to the pub/club/bar whereever you singles meet :)

The whole point of these forums is to bring people together and not separate them into their own enclaves.'

The situation is the same.

It is actually not the same. Singles come from everywhere, desis only come from the subcontinent and therefore excludes people who don't. One of the advantages of living and working in and around NYC is to meet people who are not like you. I would protest if someone had requested an Irish forum or a white forum or black forum.
What would you say if I said I wanted a Punjabi or Tamil forum? Where does the granulation stop?

Sonia,
Create a special forum for Punjabi so he may wallow in it.

[Scott]

Totally agree. On top of that, the singles forum is not limited to singles only. "single" means a period of life, married people was once single, and they could be single again with better/worst luck!

You can't be an Irish now and Punjabi later!

[LostinLaMancha]

You can't be an Irish now and Punjabi later!

immigrate to India, and you probably can be

[PunjabiAssassin]

I have no problem with meeting others! Most the people I know AREN'T Desi here! So my problem would be meeting DESIS! I would like to have the ability to interact with people of my culture, does that bother you so much? Does it really effect the rest of the board to have a section for different Ethnic groups that would like to meet one another?

We should celebrate our diversity, and have forums dedicated to different groups. I would like to go into a Irish forum and discuss all things Irish, it would be FUN!

You're right that being single is a moment in ones life, and being Desi may not be --- LaMancha: Good point as always --- but it is sad to see that people here instead of enjoying our differences, like to pretend they don't exist. The general forum may be enough for you guys, but I myself like to endulge myself in all faces of my identity, whether they be permanent or temporary.

[@@di]

I have no problem with meeting others! Most the people I know AREN'T Desi here! So my problem would be meeting DESIS! I would like to have the ability to interact with people of my culture, does that bother you so much? Does it really effect the rest of the board to have a section for different Ethnic groups that would like to meet one another?


Actually it doesn't. I'll have a beer with you and play a round of gilli-danda, pool, cricket or a video game, whatever floats your boat.

Shouldn't one be friends with people for reasons other than ethnicity?

Who sets how granular a forum can get? Should we have to have a forum for irish-americans brought up in Bombay who speak fluent french? I mean if such a person exists, thats really cool and I would like to meet him/her.

More importantly you are not being banned from starting DESI threads. So grow up already.




We should celebrate our diversity, and have forums dedicated to different groups. I would like to go into a Irish forum and discuss all things Irish, it would be FUN!


I am not saying you shouldn't. I am just saying that the bulletin board is not the right place.



You're right that being single is a moment in ones life, and being Desi may not be --- LaMancha: Good point as always --- but it is sad to see that people here instead of enjoying our differences, like to pretend they don't exist. The general forum may be enough for you guys, but I myself like to endulge myself in all faces of my identity, whether they be permanent or temporary.

Its kinda hard to pretend it doesn't exist. Go right ahead and indulge in all aspects of your identity. But to impose it on others is what I have a problem with.

[Katie_Scarlett]

I vote Punjabi gets his own forum to do whatever he likes in English in it.

[LostinLaMancha]

I vote Punjabi gets his own forum to do whatever he likes in English in it.


Your english is horrible.

[Katie_Scarlett]

Your english is horrible.
LostinLaMancha- I don't know who you are or what your deal is, but I do know that you've made it a point to pick on every little thing that I post. Whether that denotes a particularly pathetic little life on your end, or just the tedious boredom that you feel every time you go into your burger flipping job, I just don't know - nor do I care.

If you have something meaningful to say, by all means fire away. But if you're going to continue just to pick on grammatical mistakes or spelling issues, I'm going to have to start pointing out what a whey faced little ninny you are.

Get off my back, or get a life, I don't really care which you choose.

[sanity]

Your english is horrible.
So is yours.

[LostinLaMancha]

I don't pick on everything that you post. I pick on everything "wrong" that you post. i remember you advocating how only those who speak in english should post. but then. shouldn't those who can't speak proper english shouldn't post. And I was just showing you how horrible your english is. The last statement made no sense at all.

I still like your name though, even if thats a fake one.

[LostinLaMancha]

So is yours.

Tell me about it. I am from Ukraine. Atleast I am comfortable in my native language. Katie is not.

[Katie_Scarlett]

Tell me about it. I am from Ukraine. Atleast I am comfortable in my native language. Katie is not.
LLM- You are a tool kit. You really are. You obviously have nothing better to do than to tell me about my grammar. I reiterate, get a life. I have better things to do than worry about whether or not I ended a sentence in a preposition on a bulletin board. I post on here intermittantly throughout the day. I will never spellcheck my posts, I will never re-read them to make sure they're grammatically sound. I will however, reiterate- GET A LIFE YOU TWIT.

[LostinLaMancha]

I am not sure if Sonia or Prashant would approve of your language. If they do, we will know how impartial they are

[Katie_Scarlett]

I am not sure if Sonia or Prashant would approve of your language. If they do, we will know how impartial they are


Prashant asked me to edit the phrase, so I did. But I stand firm in my conviction that you are one of the biggest twits in this area. Congratulations, that's quite QUITE an accomplishment given some of the posts over on the other site. GOOD JOB.

[@@di]

Isn't the whole point of a language the ability to communicate? I was able to understand what Katie was trying to say. I am sure you understood it too, LLM. So why knit-pick? People make mistakes all the time. Its not as if this board is run for and by English Lit. majors.

You obviously have it in for Katie or just like to see her all frazzled...

[LostinLaMancha]

Peace Katie. I was just nit picking, and you seemed to get all hyper about it. Life is too short to be bothered about stuff like this. So take it easy.

[PunjabiAssassin]

Talk about getting off track! We were all hating on the Desi Thread remember... well not all of us...

[PunjabiAssassin]

Shouldn't one be friends with people for reasons other than ethnicity?

Who sets how granular a forum can get? Should we have to have a forum for irish-americans brought up in Bombay who speak fluent french? I mean if such a person exists, thats really cool and I would like to meet him/her.



People are friends with those they can relate to. 1 thing that relates one person to another is culture. Different customs and tradition, history and language that they may share through heritage (sp). People should be friends with other things than ethnicity (my best friend is black BTW), but ethnicity is a very strong commonality that people share and like Liverpool Fans they can feel a bond with one another. We shouldn't stop people from being friends of their ethnicity.

I don't know what granular means but I'm gonna guess detailed. We should have a forum thats granular enough where groups who have a significant following can talk about things that interest them. And in regards to the 'irish-americans brought up in Bombay who speak fluent french' if there enough of them, give them a section! I don't particularly care to have them talking about Irish pubs in Bombay in French in the general forum, so it would be convienent for everyone if they had a special section. (I would want to meet them too. :))


More importantly you are not being banned from starting DESI threads. So grow up already.


I don't know I've been writing in English or if people really don't read what I write, just post an anti comment. I never mentioned being banned ever? And what is this that you all have with Growing up? How does asking for a Desi Forum which Sonia told me to do, and then defending it have anything to do with maturity? You all are really way out of my league. I hope I never grow up.


I am not saying you shouldn't. I am just saying that the bulletin board is not the right place.

A bulletin board is a right place as any?? What makes a bulletin board any less acceptable?? Next are we going to ban conversation in other languages in public places so others can't hear them and get annoyed? A Bulletin Board is one of the best places to meet people safely. (Dont want a wierdo stalker)



Its kinda hard to pretend it doesn't exist. Go right ahead and indulge in all aspects of your identity. But to impose it on others is what I have a problem with.

If i was going on and on about being punjabi in the general thread that would be an imposition. What the alternative is, is that people who want to discuss
desi things will do it in the General Forum, and that will start to create an imposition on others. Having a sperate forum stops that from ever happening.

[@@di]

People are friends with those they can relate to. 1 thing that relates one person to another is culture. Different customs and tradition, history and language that they may share through heritage (sp). People should be friends with other things than ethnicity (my best friend is black BTW), but ethnicity is a very strong commonality that people share and like Liverpool Fans they can feel a bond with one another. We shouldn't stop people from being friends of their ethnicity.


Again you seem to have problems with associations...being a Liverpool fan is not an ethnic trait. I am an Barcelona/Arsenal/Ferrari fan but I grew up in India. The "indian" head shake/roll is an ethnic trait. Yes, I'll admit it, I do this from time to time. For those who are clueless about this trait, this is what a lot indians, esp. south indians do when asked a yes/no question: they shake their heads like they are saying No, but they actually mean Yes. I know its confusing, but chalk it up to the wisdom of the east :D, there is no black and white, just grey...



I don't know what granular means but I'm gonna guess detailed. We should have a forum thats granular enough where groups who have a significant following can talk about things that interest them. And in regards to the 'irish-americans brought up in Bombay who speak fluent french' if there enough of them, give them a section! I don't particularly care to have them talking about Irish pubs in Bombay in French in the general forum, so it would be convienent for everyone if they had a special section. (I would want to meet them too. :))


How hard is to close/skip the thread?



I don't know I've been writing in English or if people really don't read what I write, just post an anti comment. I never mentioned being banned ever? And what is this that you all have with Growing up? How does asking for a Desi Forum which Sonia told me to do, and then defending it have anything to do with maturity? You all are really way out of my league. I hope I never grow up.


Growing up has its advanatges. I'll take this "You all are really way out of my league." as a compliment.



A bulletin board is a right place as any?? What makes a bulletin board any less acceptable?? Next are we going to ban conversation in other languages in public places so others can't hear them and get annoyed? A Bulletin Board is one of the best places to meet people safely. (Dont want a wierdo stalker)


Are you kidding me? You really believe the internet is place to meet place safely. There are a lot things you can tell from a "real" person that you cannot make out with a virtual person.




If i was going on and on about being punjabi in the general thread that would be an imposition. What the alternative is, is that people who want to discuss
desi things will do it in the General Forum, and that will start to create an imposition on others. Having a sperate forum stops that from ever happening.

It wouldn't be an imposition for me. It would just indicate that the only thing you want to talk about is your punjabi heritage thus making you very two-dimensional, ergo, very boring.

[Nic]

I would like to see an English thread, where people stuck to proper English spelling and none of these colonial vulgarisms. We would ban bad behaviour and rudeness too. Simply not British. Oh, and no drifting off the subject either.

But then I suppose we'd have nobody posting on it, would we?

Я думаю мы русская резьба.

[@@di]

Nic:
This bulletin board has had few *****ic posts, but in general the decorum on this board has been better than on the other one. I thank everyone for being polite :)

[Nic]

Do you think we should institute a rule junior members should only speak when spoken to?

[sanity]

Oh ho! Instituting a grandfather clause?

[Nic]

oi! Speak when you're spoken to!!!

[sanity]

Ah, but you are speaking to me now.

I see how it is. You're trying to keep us juniors down.

FIGHT THE OPPRESSION!

[@@di]

Do you think we should institute a rule junior members should only speak when spoken to?

Pray tell..how does one become or get upgraded a "member"?

Also were late to work yesterday because of that horrible accident on the Pulaski?? All I saw was that a SUV was on the concrete median.

[sanity]

Pray tell..how does one become or get upgraded a "member"?

By posting the requisite number of times. 10? 20? 50? No idea what the post count is set at for this board.

[@@di]

By posting the requisite number of times. 10? 20? 50? No idea what the post count is set at for this board.

That is not true. There are "members" who have fewer posts than I do. It has nothing to do with how early you signed up. I was one of the 1st to do so.

It baffles me, unless its an admin function.

[Katie_Scarlett]

30 posts.

[PunjabiAssassin]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3613570.stm

[PunjabiAssassin]

Again you seem to have problems with associations...being a Liverpool fan is not an ethnic trait. I am an Barcelona/Arsenal/Ferrari fan but I grew up in India. The "indian" head shake/roll is an ethnic trait. Yes, I'll admit it, I do this from time to time. For those who are clueless about this trait, this is what a lot indians, esp. south indians do when asked a yes/no question: they shake their heads like they are saying No, but they actually mean Yes. I know its confusing, but chalk it up to the wisdom of the east :D, there is no black and white, just grey...

I think you mis-read my post. I never said being a liverpool fan was an ethnic trait, I said that people should be allowed to interact with those they identify with, and yes Ethnicity alone shouldn't be your identity, but ethnicity should also not be barred as being part of your identity that you can openly discuss.



How hard is to close/skip the thread?

Exactly my point. If you don't want to engage yourself in the Desi Thread, close/skip the thread! Don't stop others who may find the content interesting from interacting in there. Just because you have your biases, doesn't mean you should implement them on the rest of the community.




Growing up has its advanatges. I'll take this "You all are really way out of my league." as a compliment.

Take it with milk and sugar if you'd like :)



Are you kidding me? You really believe the internet is place to meet place safely. There are a lot things you can tell from a "real" person that you cannot make out with a virtual person.

The Internet is absolutely safe!!! It only becomes unsafe when you reveal personal information or you attempt to meet someone on the other side. demiking, wishIwas, and yourself can talk all you like, all day long without ever feeling a personal threat to you from a post. Obviously interaction with 'real' people is preferable, but internet communication has its advantages, and we shouldn't stop people from interacting with others that share their interest!



It wouldn't be an imposition for me. It would just indicate that the only thing you want to talk about is your punjabi heritage thus making you very two-dimensional, ergo, very boring.

And I see from your obvious hatred from the Desi thread that you are our own indian version of Krusty the Clown. Its obvious from my numerous posts in almost all the threads that I discuss on all topics, and statements about my Punjabi or Indian heritage will only add to the plethora of topics that I've touched upon.

[LostinLaMancha]

That is not true. There are "members" who have fewer posts than I do.

Who are they?

[NewportLady]

Punjabi,

Who is Crusty the Clown?

[LostinLaMancha]

And I see from your obvious hatred from the Desi thread that you are our own indian version of Krusty the Clown. Its obvious from my numerous posts in almost all the threads that I discuss on all topics, and statements about my Punjabi or Indian heritage will only add to the plethora of topics that I've touched upon.


@@di is obviously a desi, who likes to distance himself from other desis. I have seen some Indians behave this way. Do you know why it is so?


Admins, I am not being a racist. Just wondering. So please don't delete

[sanity]

That is not true. There are "members" who have fewer posts than I do. It has nothing to do with how early you signed up. I was one of the 1st to do so.

It baffles me, unless its an admin function.
Number of POSTS not member number.

According to Katie, post two more times!

[@@di]

And I see from your obvious hatred from the Desi thread that you are our own indian version of Krusty the Clown. Its obvious from my numerous posts in almost all the threads that I discuss on all topics, and statements about my Punjabi or Indian heritage will only add to the plethora of topics that I've touched upon.

So people who don't agree with you are either:

a. racist, if they are non-desi, or
b. self-hating desi, i.e me

The crux of my argument is that a desi forum was and is uneccessary.
If that makes me a self-hating desi in your sad little world, so be it.


@@di is obviously a desi, who likes to distance himself from other desis. I have seen some Indians behave this way. Do you know why it is so?
Admins, I am not being a racist. Just wondering. So please don't delete

Two questions:
a. How do you know I am desi?
b.And how do you say that I distance myself from other desis? Just because I am against a desi thread.

Based on just one thread you are able to label/categorize me. That is a pretty big assumption on your part.

I haven't met any "self-hating" desis so I wouldn't know why they behave the way they do. Maybe you should ask Punjabi, oh wait, he is the one with no desi friends.

[LostinLaMancha]

Two questions:
a. How do you know I am desi?
b.And how do you say that I distance myself from other desis? Just because I am against a desi thread.

Based on just one thread you are able to label/categorize me. That is a pretty big assumption on your part.



You are and you know that. More importantly you mentioned it yourself.

And about you distancing yourself from desis, all your thought processes point to that. Anyhow, they might still be your only friends.

Anyhow, this would be my last reponse in this thread. This is getting boring now.

[@@di]

You are and you know that. More importantly you mentioned it yourself.

And about you distancing yourself from desis, all your thought processes point to that. Anyhow, they might still be your only friends.

Anyhow, this would be my last reponse in this thread. This is getting boring now.

Wow, now you are a shrink. Anyway I am done talking about this stupid topic. Since there isn't a desi forum, common sense has prevailed.

[PunjabiAssassin]

Interestingly, this is the Desi THread no matter how much you hate it :).

You mentioned you are desi just a post or 2 ago, remember the whole Head Shake deal?

I didn't call anyone a racist.

I have tons of Desi friends! Just not here :)

LaMancha,

This happens in all cultures. Why I can't say exactly, but from my experience, the Indians that have attempted to hide their roots have been doing so to further their assimilation. They want to 'belong' so they sometimes act 'white'. Various names for them, White-Washed, Coconut (Brown on the outside, white on the inside) all of them that are pretty offense to them.

This isn't to say it happens often, but it does happen. An interesting study was done on Japanese immigrants. In societies that are dominated by minorities, the Japanese students were considered white. In the Bronx this happens today where some Japanese kids say their race is white! But thats more societal forces attempting to pigeon hole them. The study also showed that of all Asian women, Japanese women tended to marry out of there culture and white men at a disproprtianate rate (compared to other asian women.) WHY? I dunno.

So it happens to everyone.

Krusty the Clown... well that's @@di. Doesn't mean I don't like you though! You're a great person to converse with on here even if I disagree with your prespective.

[@@di]

Interestingly, this is the Desi THread no matter how much you hate it :).


Dude, you must have been dropped as a baby :) . I am not against desi threads. I just do not think its a good idea to have a forum for desis. Sets a bad precedent.



This happens in all cultures. Why I can't say exactly, but from my experience, the Indians that have attempted to hide their roots have been doing so to further their assimilation. They want to 'belong' so they sometimes act 'white'. Various names for them, White-Washed, Coconut (Brown on the outside, white on the inside) all of them that are pretty offense to them.


So any desi who doesn't conform to your world view is a "coconut". How arrogant to think that you represent 1 billion of us, but then again you are punjabi, i kinda expected that.



Krusty the Clown... well that's @@di. Doesn't mean I don't like you though! You're a great person to converse with on here even if I disagree with your prespective.

Oh you know me so well, sniff.
Call me names and then tell me i am great. At least on 9th ave people get paid for this kinda talk. You owe me $20, cash only no IOUs :D.

[PunjabiAssassin]

Dude, you must have been dropped as a baby :) . I am not against desi threads. I just do not think its a good idea to have a forum for desis. Sets a bad precedent.

THe precedent was set when the Lifestyle thread and the Health sections were created (I know they are not ethnicities but I'm sure you will remind me in your reply).



So any desi who doesn't conform to your world view is a "coconut". How arrogant to think that you represent 1 billion of us, but then again you are punjabi, i kinda expected that.

No, alot of people don't conform to my world view and alot more don't conform to yours. I didn't call you a coconut, I called you Krusty the Clown. If you feel the Coconut description fits you too, then so be it, I can't make that opinion of you from what I've heard from you. But I do know you're remarks are disrespectful to a community. You're hateful nature is becoming more translucent as you begin to call a community of over 50 million people 'arogant'.


Oh you know me so well, sniff.
Call me names and then tell me i am great. At least on 9th ave people get paid for this kinda talk. You owe me $20, cash only no IOUs :D.

Calling you Krusty the Clown is being accurate. That doesn't mean I don't like you! Unlike yourself, I like people from all walks of life and continue to converse with them.

P.S. Whats on 9th Ave?

[happygirl]

What is a Desi? I never heard of the word?

[Nic]

I think it's used for anyone from the Indian sub-continent, but it might be a bit more specific than that. Does it imply traditional values? Would it tend to exclude muslims? I don't think so.

[@@di]

I think it's used for anyone from the Indian sub-continent, but it might be a bit more specific than that. Does it imply traditional values? Would it tend to exclude muslims? I don't think so.

DESI is from the root word DESH, which literally mean country [Bangla-desh,country of bangla people].

Desi's parallel word would be Homeboy. It is used primarily by citizens of south asian countries who are 1st generation immigrants.

Then there is ABCD, American Born Confused Desi Emmigrated From Gujurat etc.., 2nd generation people caught between 2 world views.

It does not imply a particular religious affliation and is used to categroize people from a specific region of the world.

[happygirl]

Thanks guys!! Now I finally know what it means! :)

[PunjabiAssassin]

DESI is from the root word DESH, which literally mean country [Bangla-desh,country of bangla people].

Desi's parallel word would be Homeboy. It is used primarily by citizens of south asian countries who are 1st generation immigrants.

Then there is ABCD, American Born Confused Desi Emmigrated From Gujurat etc.., 2nd generation people caught between 2 world views.

It does not imply a particular religious affliation and is used to categroize people from a specific region of the world.


Yeah basically, except the parallel wouldn't be homeboy :confused: THat has a completely different conotation. And ABCD is a modification from a term the Chinese used for the Chinese Americans, American Born Chinese. The Equivilent to that for the foriegn Chinese was FOB, Fresh Off the Boat. Now us Desis have began using those terms to degrade each other. *sigh*

American Born Confused Desi Emmigrated From Gujarat is a new one that would be ABCDFG. But that also is nonsensical. If they are american born then how can they also be coming from Gujarat.? I guess that why ABCDEFG never caught on :).