Letters from Vivien (continued)

[wired]

So since it appears users can no longer post in the original "Letters from Vivien" thread, i figured it would be useful to continue the discussion (which has obviously generated enough interest in users of this forum to substantiate three pages of responses).




Wired,

My leadership, and responsibiliy skills have been repeatedly tested and praised. Besides, admission to the state bar is not qualified or quantified by someone's leadership skills, the character committee rarely denies admission to applicants, and when it does, it's due to very serious transgressions, such as embezzling money from former employers.


Sonia,

You have, for nearly a year now (maybe longer?), made continual references to an alleged NJ Bar Association character committee determination against Robert Vivien. You have never substantiated these allegations, or offered an explanation for why you would have any right to access private files.

For more information on the NJ Bar rules and regulations, see the following link:
http://www.njbarexams.org/commchar/char.htm

Scroll down to Part IV, and you will find the following:



PART IV - COMMITTEE RECORDS

REGULATION 401. Confidentiality; Retention

401:1 Confidentiality. All Certified Statements, reference letters, records, files, proceedings and reports of the Committee on Character shall be confidential and shall not be disclosed or attended by anyone except as authorized by these rules or as provided by the Supreme Court and as follows:

a. On the scheduling of oral arguments before the Supreme Court, in which event the recommendation of the Committee that is the subject thereof, together with any briefs filed pursuant to an order of the Court, shall be made public; or

b. At the request of or with the consent of the candidate in which event the Statement of Candidate may be released; or

c. At the request of the Disciplinary Review Board in connection with its consideration and determination of the appropriate sanctions that should be imposed on an attorney who has engaged in unethical conduct; or

d. At the request of a jurisdiction to which the candidate has applied for admission to the bar; or

e. [/b]By order of the Supreme Court, on notice to the candidate[/b] unless the Court otherwise orders.


Today, you took your allegations a step further, with an oblique allusion to criminal conduct. Then, true to form, you locked the thread.

Care to substantiate any of your allegations, let alone those of criminal conduct. Or is now "not the right time"?

sammlung04

[Sonia]

Don't know if it would be considered improper to scan documents from the bar association onto a bulletin board, but we have aired on the side of caution, and not scanned the documents in our possession, although one of the letters was produced in a municipal court hearing to substantiate my argument, as Robert well knows.

Instead of citing the regs Robert (or wired), let's get to the nitty gritty, I have a suggestion, Vivien should produce his letter of acceptance from the state bar, or his license number. Simple enough, almost every lawyer has this information readily available and visible, even hanging on the walls of their office.

Further, we are issuing a caveat, since Vivien is not licensed to practice law in the state of New Jersey, if he's done legal research for any individual, it may be construed as practicing law without a license, especially if he's been paid.

Wired, This thread is also closing, don't have the time to respond to your on-going arguments. If you persist, we will have to ban you.

FYI, Read the regs, the records are confidential, not privileged, they can be obtained through subpoena.